Child Marriage In The U.S.

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Six per thousand minors in the United States have been married between 2000 and 2015 according to a 2018 study. Roughly 11.96% of the 200,000 child wedding that took place were girls under the age of 18. In the U.S. there were marriage licenses issued for children as young as 12 and 13-years-old.

There has been a consistant failure of the U.S. Federal Government to take action against children getting married. Congress failed to ratify two UN Conventions against child marriage. There is no federal law banning child marriage. The U.S. State Department and USCIS approve petitions for adults to bring their child brides back into the United States. There is an average of 3% of all petitions being rejected by CIS.

Worldwide there are over 41,000 child brides per day. Roughly 15 million per year.

This is a travesty being commited against children and it needs to stop.

Sources:
https://childusa.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/2020-Report-on-Child-Marriage-in-the-US.pdf

https://www.newsnationnow.com/us-news/child-marriage-is-currently-legal-in-46-states/

https://populationmatters.org/news/2021/04/child-marriage-us-where-outrage

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/child-marriage-united-states-donna-pollard/

Transcript:

Dani States 0:01
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John Newport 0:37
And welcome back to the Girls Ask Guys Show where we are your guide to dating, love, life, and everything else, including marriage, which is going to be our topic for today. But this is not your ordinary little marriage episode. No, this is about child brides happening today. In our country in 2021. We’re not talking just 17. No, we’re talking as young as 13. And it’s approved by the federal government

Ashley Sanders 1:09
13-year-olds are now being, I don’t want to say forced so we’ll use a simpler word. 13-year-olds are being coerced into marrying perverts for citizenship. Now, if you’re on the side of well, how do you know it’s not consensual? I’m going to go ahead and tell you this 13-year-olds are not smart enough to make a decision that definite, especially when it comes to leveraging citizenship.

John Newport 1:41
Right. And we’re talking about these are requests sent to CIS. And it’s a loophole within the law. Now, they are trying to close the loophole. But, eh, if it’s happened, it happened very quietly, because there’s no report on it. All we know is that certain senators, not really going to name them because, well they’re out of office now. We’re looking into it and we don’t know where the buck was passed to.

Ashley Sanders 2:12
It was passed nowhere.

John Newport 2:13
But this has been going on for years. Decades.

Ashley Sanders 2:16
The fact that this exists. And you know what the thing is? And I’ll be honest with you, I don’t think and it’s not really a dig on America or anything or Americans. I number one thing most people wouldn’t even believe this is going on. Number two, I would say to a certain extent that people are so distracted. And that doesn’t mean like wiith anything major. I just mean with life in general, that nobody’s ever stopped to think about this.

John Newport 2:41
Right. Yeah, they just rubber stamped it.

Ashley Sanders 2:44
I guess the part that really bothers me is the honoring, like, they honor what’s legal in another country, when most of the time when people are coming to America. It’s because they’re trying to come to a new country with new laws and new boundaries and new ideas. So to re-traumatize this child by saying, yes, you do have to marry him, even if you come to this country that you were taught was the land of opportunities, is just fucked up. It’s blatantly fucked up.

John Newport 3:14
Right. Now, to put all of this in a motion so that everybody can understand how this whole thing happened to even begin with, we need to look at the history of where all this started. Because the revulsion over child marriage really didn’t start until really the early 1900s. Because it was in the early 1900s, somewhere, right around 1909. That actual laws were set in place by states for the legal age of marriage. And back then it was right around the age of 16. And it kind of grew from there. To the common understanding today of 18. There are still states, like Colorado is 17 with exceptions, a few other states that’s as low as 16, with exceptions. Look at this way, every single state has an exception somewhere.

Ashley Sanders 4:13
Right. And that’s one of the things thats not as bad to me, like the states rights and state saying, Okay, well 17 I would wager to say that most of those 17 year olds aren’t being hauled off and proposed to by 40 year old creeps. I think it’s more along the lines of when you’re young and dumb and want to get married. But when we talk about the concept of the international marriage kind of thing, that’s where I think it gets really fucking weird. I wouldn’t be surprised if priests were trying to marry 16 year olds. Don’t get me wrong. But I think there’s something about removing a child from their home and forcing them to marry you and moving into a different country. That just doesn’t work so well in my stomach.

John Newport 4:55
What really gets me is that All of this could have been ended in 2010. But the US Congress failed to pass the international protecting girls by preventing child marriage act. The United States remains only one of two nations not to ratify the United Nations Convention on the Rights of children. Somalia is the only other country that didn’t ratify it.

Ashley Sanders 5:23
We’re not great when it comes to rights.

John Newport 5:26
That’s dumbfounding. Because usually we fall right in line with the other G8 countries. And what they do we do. And if we don’t set the precedence, and they set precedence, and we pretty much follow right behind them. But no, out of the seven countries that said, this is what we’re gonna do. Us and Somalia, were the only two that did not ratify this pact. I was like what the Fuck,

Ashley Sanders 5:55
I’m sure there’s some of you who are a little bit more on the conspiracy theory side, and might understand what I’m going to say here. But we in the United States have an uncomfortable history when it comes to children, and adults and relationships. And well, yes, you’re right. We usually do follow along. I would say I’m not surprised that this didn’t happen.

John Newport 6:18
Well, this has been on the books since 1979. And it failed in 2010. These other countries, they looked at it and said, if child marriage is a problem, then it’s our problem. They didn’t go, well, if child marriage is a problem. That’s for all of you to deal with. We’ve got other things we’re taking care of like, talking about what gloves the first lady wore at the state dinner, which I’m not joking about. Congress did spend three and a half hours talking about how beautiful the gloves that the First Lady wore at the state dinner. I was like, What the fuck? We have bigger problems.

Ashley Sanders 7:03
No, no, no, we don’t though. That’s the interesting thing. Like, that’s the most interesting part about America is that we are literally a third world country when it comes to like rights with a Gucci belt on dude, because we talk about fucking nothing. Like you said three hours. Three hours they spent talking about this, you know how long it would take to deliberate? Honestly, on something like this if it was a voting sort of process. If it was a voting process to end child brides…

John Newport 7:32
Yeah, but it’s a voting process in which ‘Can I get reelected with this?’ Oh, no, I’m still two years out three years out. I’m not going to talk about talking about it during the election cycle.

Ashley Sanders 7:44
Yep. And then do nothing about it.

John Newport 7:45
Yeah. That’s why I’m a firm believer in term limits for people in Congress.

Ashley Sanders 7:51
I’m a huge believer in term limits.

John Newport 7:53
How the term limits come about for the presidency? That didn’t happen until Roosevelt. And as soon as he died, they put term limits on it, because he ran for what four terms?

Ashley Sanders 8:05
Yep, four terms?

John Newport 8:06
Yeah, they’re like, we’ve had enough of this crazy bullshit. two terms.

Ashley Sanders 8:12
Exactly what happened?

John Newport 8:13
There’s with having that happen. And it’s the second act and one articles. It’s never been used. But it’s…

Ashley Sanders 8:21
Articles like what?

John Newport 8:23
No, there. It takes two thirds of all the governors of all the states to sign a piece of paper saying, Congress, you’re fired. You have term limits, and boom, that’s it.

Ashley Sanders 8:34
Oh, I thought you meant to the elongation of a term. Yeah, no doubt. Of course, I’m not gonna vote for their own term limits.

John Newport 8:43
It’s gonna take the state governors to do it.

Ashley Sanders 8:44
That’s like me saying ‘Hey, John, I’d like for you to give me a term limit, as long as we’re doing this show.’ Of course they’re not going to fucking vote for it.

John Newport 8:51
Vote themselves out of office?

Ashley Sanders 8:52
They’re not putting themselves out of jobs. All they need to do is their jobs.

John Newport 8:57
But almost all these debates, and have agreed that children are deserving of protection. But our country does want to do anything about it.

Ashley Sanders 9:05
It’s mind boggling. And it’s like, it’s not even that much of a difficult protection. It’s like, Hey, you can’t marry this child because it’s a fucking child.

John Newport 9:16
Yeah, if we go just a little bit further back in history, child bride, the first time it was actually used, it was back in the 1870s. And, and also in the 1880s. But you also had child wife, and boy husband, were two other very popular phrases. It hit the Oxford dictionary for records in 1843. So and we were going all the way back to 1843. People saw that this was somewhat of a problem, but you have kind of put yourself in the headspace of what it was like back then.

Ashley Sanders 9:52
Listen, and I mean, this whole heartedly. I understand that back in the day. Shit was weird. And you know Kids were married young. I mean, even if we go as far as back as like, let’s say, quote unquote, biblical times. We are too far of a society to even remotely think that this is okay.

John Newport 10:11
Even back in ancient Rome, according to the records that they were able to uncover. Most people did not get married until they’re early 20s. We’re talking ancient Rome here.

Ashley Sanders 10:23
Oh, so even the Romans thought I was bad. And they were perverts.

John Newport 10:26
Oh, hell, yeah, they were. But women had no rights back then. absolutely zero. They weren’t even classified as citizens.

Ashley Sanders 10:35
Isn’t that scary?

John Newport 10:36
Yeah, the only way that they got citizenship was through their husband, it was really fucked up. But you’re still talking, their average age was around lower 20s, roughly 20 to 23. Doing my homework, looking for the original topic that was gonna do, which was how dating has changed throughout the ages. And then I came across this. But there’s, back in the eight, 17, 18, early 1900s. Most people when they looked at age, it was more about what you are capable of doing. So there were particular ages at which a person would go to school. But if there were no schools, well, guess what, you didn’t go to school, you started working. And if you were a person that was large enough, or able enough, or financially prepared enough, that’s when you went to work, you got married, and you started carving out your own life. But those moments could come at different times for different people. When I was a kid, well, I’m still not that big of a person. But take somebody in junior high, who was playing center for the football team. If it wasn’t for modern day, he would actually be probably in a mine or in factory or out on a farm, earning his own living and possibly already married. But back then, that was their mode of thinking.

Ashley Sanders 12:11
Yeah, it’s a little different. Because like I said, times are different. And the reason I say this is because it’s so obvious to me, that like, people are aware of the situation, it’s not like it was back in the day, we don’t need you to be a fucking hunter, or gather in the most primitive sense of the word. If you want to stay in school, stay in school doesn’t matter your size. So with that comes an evolution in the way we date in the way we communicate and everything. And that’s why to me, it’s like, this is a common fucking sense.

John Newport 12:47
Yeah, but no records of when people got married were kept in the United States, until 1880. And, really, when you look at the census, yeah, I remember doing a study on prison population. And even those records, very poorly kept. They only went back to around the same time period around 1880s when they started keeping records. But there was no specific age on marital status until 1910. And there was another study conducted in 2011. That was published in the American Academy of Pediatrics, which just states about 9% of women today, are getting married before they turn 18. And this is happening in the United States. These are American citizens. A lot of them first generation or born here or multi generational born in the United States. 9% are being married before they turn 18. This isn’t distant past people.

Ashley Sanders 14:02
Right. We’re talking today.

John Newport 14:03
Yeah.

Ashley Sanders 14:03
There’s a few different sects of certain religions that allow this. And this I know. The problem is, some of those religions hold a lot of power. And because they hold that power, they can lobby their way out of bullshit. And we’ve seen it happen. It’s no secret with Warren Jeffs, who had several child brides. So it comes to a point where we have to as people, if you’re listening to this, you say what the fuck is wrong with this country? And you start asking questions.

John Newport 14:42
There was even a study done by the CDC Center for Disease Control, which estimates that probability of marriage by age eighteen in today’s United States is around 6% for women and 2% for men. You look at that and there’s just a huge disproportion there. But even if we keep going with this precise line of when childhood ended, and when adult begins, adulthood from childhood is cordoned off with adult rights and responsibilities become very fuzzy. Towards the end of the 19th century. Because chronological age and your mentality age blurs. Look at people in high school. Some of them are very intelligent, and you would actually mistake them for being adult because of how they think. But then you have this other group, and you look at them, you go, you’re a child, and an adult body.

Ashley Sanders 15:43
Those are kids.

John Newport 15:44
Yeah.

Ashley Sanders 15:45
And it’s, what’s scarier is this is that people will say things along those lines to sort of justify this line of thinking. Like they’ll say, ‘Well, do you see how they act? Their so mature, they’re clearly mature enough to get married?’ Which well, yeah, they may seem intelligent. Guess what? There’s the fucking kids.

John Newport 16:08
Right. Yeah, and there was back in like, early 19th century or early 20th century 1902. A child being married. And we’re talking as young as 13, 14 years old. It was not really notable. People were just like, whatever. Especially when you start talking about the more rural areas and not the built up cities. It was rather common. They didn’t really think anything of it. But to think of that happening today, in today’s modern society, and we’re supposed to be like this great, first world, whatever. And this is still happening. Kids 13 years old.

Ashley Sanders 16:54
I can’t believe it. I just these kids are kids.

John Newport 16:59
So now jump over and start looking at these adults petitioning on behalf of minors.

Ashley Sanders 17:06
They need their asses whooped.

John Newport 17:08
We’re talking 5000 adults petitioning on behalf of minors. But there’s also 3000 minors seeking to bring their older spouses or their fiance’s into the United States. And it’s the lure of a US passport combined with lax U.S. marriage laws that are fueling this. There’s no other way of talking about it. We did an investigative show with a very popular YouTuber who fell from grace, still waiting for his prosecution to happen. But he travelled from one state to another state to find minor and then transport that minor from that state back across the border in order to groom them for marriage. That is human trafficking.

Ashley Sanders 17:59
That is predatory. It’s manipulative. It’s human trafficking. It absolutely is. And I fully believe that I don’t give a fuck what anyone says, if you are an American citizen. Because I’m not gonna sit here and comment on other countries cultures. I’m not from there. I don’t care what they believe. And I do you care to a certain degree, but I can’t speak on it. But I can tell you this. If you’re an American citizen, and you go to a different country to find a child to marry. You’re not only a pedophile, you’re trafficking children.

John Newport 18:33
Under the guise that it’s, quote, unquote, legal. There is a difference between what is legal and what is moral, Legal and moral they’re supposed to be parallel. It’s legal, but it’s still immoral to do. That’s what pisses me off. We’re supposed to be a country that has this. We’re moral, we have moral standards, we don’t do this. This is something that we frown upon. And as we said, in Tuesday’s show, we prosecute pedophiles to the fullest extent, these people, most of them will never again, see the light of day, they will forever be dressed in a funky ass, weird color uniform. every facet of their life is controlled by somebody else. They’ve lost their freedom. They gave up that right when they decided to mess around with a child. But we have this loophole that people are able to exploit and people remain silent. And if they’re not remaining silent, then they’re told to shut up and sit down do your job.

Ashley Sanders 19:43
It gets to a point where they used to say silence is you being complicit. And in this case, that’s not true. Because even when you speak about it, you’re told like you said to shut up. People are saying it’s not technically illegal and I said this Tuesday, if you do not find anything wrong with going to a different fucking country and finding a minor, and then forcing them to marry you, you are not welcome here. You have no business, listening to this show.

John Newport 20:14
Where are the people in the State Department that looked at this? And some of these petitions come across their desk? And going, wait a minute, there’s something wrong with this. Where are those people?

Ashley Sanders 20:26
Why does no one care about these kids?

John Newport 20:28
Well, I’m thinking, if I’ve worked for USCIS, and I’m the one that approves or disapproves these immigrations. Either a visa or a green card, or whatever it is. And I’m sitting there looking at this, I’m going, Okay, this person married this person. They’re an American citizen, they are not. So they want to bring the bride or groom to the United States. Okay, no problem. Oh, wait a minute. They’re 15 years old. Where’s my supervisor? There were over 5000 approvals, seeking to bring minor spouses or fiance’s into the United States. And almost 3000 of those were by minors, looking to bring their older spouses. What the hell?

Ashley Sanders 21:17
And it’s sick, and it’s depraved, dude, like, it’s fucking weird. And it’s weird to me, because I’ve worked with adults trying to get citizenship. It’s not fucking easy. They have to do the meetings, you have to meet with the immigration officer, why is no one asking these kids? Are you safe? And you should be able as an immigration officer to tell if this kid is fucking safe or not. This goes beyond the concept of immigration and legal status. Fuck all that. This is about a child’s safety.

John Newport 21:49
Yeah. Now, when you look at the age group of these adults, you would think that most of these were adult men well over 40. Nope, not true. Out of the almost 6000 petitions, only 149 were older than 40. Out of that only 28 were over 50 there was only one who was over 70. For a 17 year old wife from Guatemala.

Ashley Sanders 22:20
Over seven? That’s unacceptable. It’s unacceptable. I don’t care what anyone says. It’s fucking disgusting. That’s literally disgusting. And it needs to be stopped. And someone needs to be have the balls in the State’s Office to be like, ‘No.’

John Newport 22:38
I would say where do they want to live in the country? Let’s say Nevada. Nevada is a pretty liberal state. Allowed gambling, prostitution is allowed in some areas. There’s other laws that Nevada has that no other state has.

Ashley Sanders 22:55
Sure you’re going to live right next to a police station.

John Newport 22:57
So this person they got approved by the federal government, but they want to live in Nevada? Well, Nevada sits and goes, wait a minute. That’s not going to work in our state. You go find someplace else. Let’s kick in some state rights here.

Ashley Sanders 23:11
Hello. You can’t live here. You can’t fucking live here. You cannot fucking live here I’m sorry. I’m sorry, But I’m not fucking sorry.

John Newport 23:19
Your, your wife is how old 15? No, not going to work in our state. Generally, states have the age set as 18 for the minimum age of marriage, or, quote unquote, legal age of consent. And yet, every state has exceptions. Some states like New York, Virginia, Maryland, 16 – 17 years old. But those three states specifically allow children under the age of 16 to marry with court permission. Meaning they have to go in front of a judge and convince the judge, this is what I want to do. I know what I’m doing. And you know what happens? The judge says, okay.

John Newport 23:28
A very stupid judge. I’m calling the judge very fucking stupid. In my mind. You have to be a special kind of idiot. It’s alarming that people are proving this. And no one’s stopping and thinking, Okay, sure. It’s legal in their country. But here’s our country. And here’s where our standards are. You don’t get to marry a child.

John Newport 24:24
I’ve talked with women and men who they got married when they were 18. And now they’re in their mid 20s, almost 30. And you talk to them about what it was like for them. Most of them are like, I had a very good time. However, they regret the decision, because they look back and all their friends went to college. They went to concerts, they went to parties. They were able to do all this stuff. But they could not do that because they had marital responsibilities. They had a house, they had a car, they had bills, then all this stuff that comes with being married, that being single, young, and in your 20s, you don’t have to worry about. Those worries and those pressures are not there. They are like, damn. I wish I waited. And if you look at when people are getting married nowadays, most men, most women, they’re waiting longer and longer. A lot of marriages nowadays are happening in their late 20s, early 30s. Some, they’re waiting until their mid 30s before they get married.

Ashley Sanders 25:38
Oh, yeah, I’m in my late 20s and I don’t think I’m getting married anytime soon.

John Newport 25:42
And I looked at the statistics, part of that original thing that I was looking at. And there was a track of all the census records and everything from 1880, forward all the way up into today, beginning of 2021. And it shows the average age of first marriage and from 1980 forward, it just keeps going up and up and up. And you’re looking at late 20s, early 30s, mid 30s and even broke down by occupation, and how much money people have. They broke this thing down every possible way. And it didn’t matter. The age for first marriages goes up. But you have these people who are finding a loophole and going to another country and marry a child and bring them to the United States. Fucking insane.

Ashley Sanders 26:34
Just perving out. Just perving out, like, what kind of shit is that? And finding that loophole is even weirder. Like the fact that we know there’s a loophole?

John Newport 26:45
The fact it even exists.

Ashley Sanders 26:47
That you know, the Child Protection Act, I’d be like, What the fuck is wrong with you? Like, we cannot talk? Because I never thought in my right mind. And my god given left brain mind that some fucking creep would go to another country and traffic a child and say, Well, technically, Your Honor. I didn’t do anything wrong.

John Newport 27:08
Yeah, we’re talking 13, age 13. And looking at the data right now it’s sitting right here in front of me. When I combine the I 30. And the I 129F’s. Which is I 30 is for your spouse, I 129F is fiance. I’m looking at over 10,000 petitions. Those that were approved almost 9000. I mean we’re looking at 10,000 – 9000

Ashley Sanders 27:41
It’s alarming.

John Newport 27:42
This is fucking insane. 14, 15, 16. Only 2.6%.

Ashley Sanders 27:48
What really upsets me because

John Newport 27:50
Were rejected.

Ashley Sanders 27:51
I’m just so. Yeah, that’s fucked up. And there’s not a single person with any fucking balls in the government to say, ‘You know what, hey, let’s put everything on pause real quick, and vote for this. It could take 10 fucking minutes for us to stop this shit.’ And instead of doing that, they would rather focus on everything else.

John Newport 28:11
They had a chance in 2010 to end this thing. And why it did not pass with 100% unanimous vote on both sides of Congress, the House and the Senate, how it did not get 100% backing is beyond me.

Ashley Sanders 28:28
You know, talking to another problems. They write bills and they write bills that are completely non tangental. And it’s things that they know people aren’t going to vote for. So don’t it’s like three different things in a bill that are fucking dumb. And then the one important thing gets completely overridden.

John Newport 28:45
Yeah, but we can write a single bill and go to war for over a decade, and it’s the only bill and it gets a unanimous vote with maybe three holdouts. They can do that in like a day, but something that actually protects children from child marriage, and being able to use US citizenship as a loophole for perverts and pedophiles and whatever else we want to call them. They can’t do that. We’re supposed to be protecting children.

Ashley Sanders 29:16
Can’t protect the kids.

John Newport 29:17
Oh, no, no, but we can put cops in schools. We can force kids to wear uniforms and put them in little prisons.

Ashley Sanders 29:23
Absolutely. We can literally arrest children who talk back to their teachers or get into a fight in the locker room. But when it comes to a child being trafficked, literally, that is what we’re calling it. You cannot tell me it is anything different.

John Newport 29:39
It’s nothing but trafficking. Well, like I said, in Tuesday’s show, there was a documentary that I watched and then I went out, started researching this firm and researching the laws that were set up and put in place with us citizens traveling to other countries to literally have sex with underage kids, they get caught by that country’s law enforcement agency, our law enforcement agency is sitting right there with them. They prosecute them under that country’s laws, and then to extradite them to the United States, expeditiously. This is an expeditious extradition. And then they are tried and convicted in US courts under US law. But we can’t stop this.

Ashley Sanders 30:26
No, God forbid.

John Newport 30:28
Because they are married, and the marriage is legal in that country.

Ashley Sanders 30:32
That is what makes me so annoyed when we talk about America. And we stand out, we’re one of the richest, wealthiest countries, when we have laws like this, it completely just eliminates any sort of strength and power we have. Because the simplest thing, protecting children. And you know, I’m not even for not getting these kids over here. If a fucking freak is trafficking children, they bring them over here. You’re going to fuck to jail. We’re gonna do something to help the kid.

John Newport 31:04
We’ll meet you at the airport.

Ashley Sanders 31:05
Absolutely. We will.

John Newport 31:07
We’ll leave a light on for ya.

Ashley Sanders 31:08
Yes, exactly. As soon as you get there, we will have a sign with your fucking name on it.

John Newport 31:14
When this whole thing came out, questions were raised. And a quote unquote, discussion happened within the agency on what it can do prevent forced minor marriages. Well, the marriages are happening in another country. Now…

Ashley Sanders 31:31
We shouldn’t recognize it.

John Newport 31:32
Yeah, well, the United States is already in a shithole because every time we turn around, we stick our nose in business of other countries. And we have no business messing with them. But, hey, we’re always right. Yeah, right, okay. Every time we stick our nose where it doesn’t belong, shit gets fucked up.

Ashley Sanders 31:54
Yeah, we’re not great at minding our business.

John Newport 31:57
No, I’ve gone all the way back to World War One on this thing. And every single time we stuck our nose into something it blew up. That’s a whole different topic, different discussion. But officials wanted to create a flagging system that requires verification of the birth date. I said we had most frequent countries. Here’s the most frequent countries, Mexico, Pakistan, Jordan, Dominican Republic, Yemen, and Middle East nationals had the highest percentage of overall approval petitions. Some of these countries do not have the best record keeping. Some of them, we really don’t have that great of international relations with those countries. So yeah, our State Department can say, Look, we received this petition. Can you verify this minor? Yeah, we’re not talking to you. But we kind of need this. Yeah, we’re not talking to you. Okay, well, I guess we have to take their word for it.

Ashley Sanders 32:54
Okay, yeah, so it’s not going to be approved.

John Newport 32:56
No. They actually approve them. It’s just unverified?

Ashley Sanders 33:00
Yeah, I get that. To me. Common sense would dictate if they’re not talking to you, you should probably say, ‘This is wrong.’

John Newport 33:09
This just makes me so frustrated and angry. We have these groups that will, on their own dime, go to other countries, to rescue kids who were kidnapped. And they’re being sold into child trafficking, and sex, labor and all this other stuff. But they on their own dime, without any support whatsoever. Fly into other countries and rescue these kids. We had this whole big blow up…

Ashley Sanders 33:41
Yeah, risking their lives.

John Newport 33:43
And then they turn around and they help that country prosecute those groups. And then we had this whole huge blow up with China, kidnapping kids, and then putting them through adoption agencies to have them adopted into the United States. And that whole thing blew up all over the place. But we can’t stop this. We can stop child trafficking happening from China in the United States and kids getting kidnapped and sold into prostitution and different types of slavery. But we have a hard time stopping this.

Ashley Sanders 34:22
But child brides?

John Newport 34:25
Perfectly fine. You get a stamp of approval via the United States State Department and Immigration Services.

Ashley Sanders 34:32
Thanks for coming. Here’s your reward you get to keep a fucking child.

John Newport 34:36
Yeah, here’s your stamp of approval you unprosecuted pedophile.

Ashley Sanders 34:40
You don’t even get to go on a list or anything like you should be on a list. I would say.

John Newport 34:44
Nope. Now if you’re 18 and in high school, and you’re going out with a 16 year old. You might I don’t know. Hopefully she’s not 15 because you fall just outside of that Romeo and Juliet law. Labeled for the rest of your life.

Ashley Sanders 35:00
A sad world we live in.

John Newport 35:02
We’re talking about people that are going and marrying 13, 14, 15 year old girls, in other countries. And because it’s legal in that country, the United States recognizes it and allows it.

Ashley Sanders 35:18
That shit blows my mind.

John Newport 35:20
They can come over here, they can live in any state that they want. And yeah, the next door neighbor’s can see this, they can see this 30, 40, 50, 70 year old man kissing up on this 17 year old, or 15 year old, or 13 year old, 14 year old, they can report them. The cops can come out. All they have to do is grab that document from the State Department saying we are legally married, and it is recognized by the federal government and the cops can’t do a damn thing about it.

Ashley Sanders 35:55
That’s fucking weird. Like, that is weird to me.

John Newport 35:58
Because no law is technically broken.

Ashley Sanders 36:00
If you feel like that, honestly, if you feel like you need to go somewhere, and like, kidnap a child basically, just don’t.

John Newport 36:10
What is normally said is that child marriage is via parental consent. However, it can or may involve coercion, or they will force the girl to marry against her will. And it’s in another country. How are we supposed to investigate that? We can send a contingency over there, and they can try to investigate. But they can only do that if the other country allows it. Most of the time, because of international relations with other countries. Especially today. That’s not gonna happen. There’s gonna be like our country. Get the fuck out of here. We’ll investigate it if we want to.

Ashley Sanders 36:51
Hello. Yeah, exactly. We should make sure the kid safe and and just deport that person. Get the fuck out. You’re not welcome here anymore. Your citizenship has been revoked. Fucking pervert.

John Newport 37:02
Yeah, there’s a this whole thing. It just keeps on going. If you want to look it up, it’s very simple to do. All you have to do is bring it up on Google look at child marriage. And you will come up with hundreds of research documents, government documents, a lot of them are PDF, websites and other stories that you can follow. And you can go down this rabbit hole that is never ending. Really, we just scratched the surface of this.

Ashley Sanders 37:34
Yeah. And it’s gross. And you learn more, and you want to share it with us feel free.

John Newport 37:40
Yeah, go right ahead. There was a New York Times op ed, entitled “American Child Marriage Problem.” They were documenting 1000s of girls and a handful of boys who were married in the 21st century, thanks to the exceptions of state marriage laws that allow judges to consent to those marriages, as well as parents who forced and coerced their children. I mean we’re talking about American citizens being forced into marriages, and it being approved by elected judges. And those judges were not voted out of office, not if it’s a child problem. It is our problem. That’s how I look at it.

Ashley Sanders 38:22
It absolutely is. And I agree wholeheartedly.

John Newport 38:25
That’s one heck of a show. And my brain, actually hurts, and I think I need to go take some Pepto Bismol to settle my stomach down.

Ashley Sanders 38:34
I literally have an outing to go to tonight, and I don’t feel like going.

John Newport 38:41
I was thinking, our next show we’ll do the history of dating how it’s evolved. That’s much more lighter than this.

Ashley Sanders 38:47
Yeah, maybe.

John Newport 38:48
But this is something that I thought needed to be brought to people’s attention. So with that, we will talk to you on the next one.

Dani States 38:58
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